16 August 2009 @ 12:52 pm
Despicable advertisement from 1859  
*****PLEASE NOTE: I do not believe in this, I think it's god damned awful and really not cool, this is Vintage ads,
and sometimes ads that offend people show up from time to time. Once again I do not condone this but sadly, it's history.
Well, it's a good thing it's history and thankfully the civil war got rid of this foolishness.*****

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Eye of the shepherd, heart of the lamb67threnody on August 16th, 2009 08:00 pm (UTC)
How depressing.
Al Bearalbear on August 16th, 2009 08:02 pm (UTC)
MantridDronemantriddrone on August 16th, 2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
wow. some crazy stuff took place in the old days
SHAY-mus Dseamusd on August 16th, 2009 08:21 pm (UTC)
It is depressing and deplorable, but it is not something we can afford to forget and look away from. Thanks for posting this bit of history.
FJ!!: USAfj on August 16th, 2009 08:44 pm (UTC)
Yup, when people were part of a frickin' yard sale, next to the 1859 version of the office futon and the folding card table.
Lady Verity: chloroform helps the medicine go downspyderfyngers on August 16th, 2009 08:32 pm (UTC)
Good lord. People were living in my house when this was happening.
Mars Tokyomarstokyo on August 16th, 2009 08:40 pm (UTC)
But just think, if we restored our country to follow the constitution that our Founding Fathers drew up, all black people would be slaves, and women wouldn't have the right to vote.
Airy, Airy Quite Contraryair_and_angels on August 16th, 2009 09:17 pm (UTC)
Exactly! Change, in this case, is DARN GOOD.
3cthelion3cthelion on August 17th, 2009 03:01 pm (UTC)
i'm assuming you aren't trying to bash the founding fathers, but just for accuracy's sake, they wrote the constitution with the allowance for amendment, the first ten of which were proposed only a year after the constitution was ratified.

as for the "right to vote," the purpose of setting up landowner voting was not necessarily to exclude specific intelligent adults from voting, but to give only one vote per family unit. this encouraged families to discuss political issues and come to agreement as a family. it also discouraged larger families from dominating local elections in a time when our country wasn't so populous.

i'm not saying i agree or disagree with any of this (well, i'll happily say i disagree with the typical slavery), just making some historical clarification.
Robyneastartesyriaca on August 16th, 2009 09:19 pm (UTC)
This is fascinating, thank you for posting.
Lazulilazzchan on August 16th, 2009 09:40 pm (UTC)
Wow, that's quite a find! D: It's terrible that it existed, but if we forget...
Miss Tia's Journalmisstiajournal on August 16th, 2009 09:56 pm (UTC)
i'm a history major and this is just appalling...it's just so despicable that this country did this...

**note to albear, this ad is sized just fine and thanks for not having a clickable link!
~M~je_reviens on August 16th, 2009 10:20 pm (UTC)
fascinating -- thank you for posting it
Stefaniestefanie_bean on August 16th, 2009 10:44 pm (UTC)
What did Santayana say, those who fail to learn the mistakes of history are condemned to repeat them? Good post; thanks.
Mousegirlminniemousegirl on August 16th, 2009 11:25 pm (UTC)
The amazing thing about this is that, in some European countries African "slaves" were treated very well and they were dressed nicely. They were more like "companions" for the rich than property to be sold and degraded like animals. Only in America...
rob watersevilrob on August 17th, 2009 05:39 am (UTC)
Actually, they were sold and traded there as well, they just had fancier auction houses, unlike the colonies that started their trade in the town square and never kept it out of a public venue.

By the ad, it should be noted that Mr. August Jr., apparently thought highly of them as well, based on his descriptions, and that he made it clear they hadn't done anything wrong to be sold, he was just moving.

I'm just disturbed that the guy owned 70+ slaves under 12 years old.
Mynxgarden_hoe21 on August 17th, 2009 10:09 am (UTC)
I can't find the bit where it says 70+.
rob watersevilrob on August 17th, 2009 02:42 pm (UTC)
Laugh. My bad. It was 8, not 80. No wonder I was stupified. I can't read. :) That would have been why he was so kind in reference to them to boot though.
gogo horrorshowstothechizo on August 18th, 2009 02:35 am (UTC)
i guess then that wherever you're from slavery is OK cuz, y'know, they got really kewl clothes and everything.
Robin Bougiebougieman on August 17th, 2009 12:12 am (UTC)
Haha it's an odd disclaimer there at the beginning. Why would anyone assume that you felt the same way as this ad? (Anyone who wasn't a moron, I mean. Maybe I give people too much credit..)

Al Bearalbear on August 17th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
Well, I was afraid of offending folks and. I was paranoid I suppose.
Miss Tia's Journalmisstiajournal on August 17th, 2009 09:41 pm (UTC)
i would have probably put a similar disclaimer....there's too many peoples who would 'assume' things without the disclaimer (sadly)...
Al Bearalbear on August 18th, 2009 02:23 pm (UTC)
Reminds me of another post I made in another LJ community I frequent, randompics I had to make another disclaimer there too, check it out. http://community.livejournal.com/randompics/2244545.html
James 'Shep' Shepherdshep_shepherd on August 17th, 2009 02:40 am (UTC)
I'm glad that those days are gone!
some call me bubbacynica on August 17th, 2009 02:44 am (UTC)
I'm so sad for those people. While we read it, it's almost as if we can detach -- but that really happened for them.
Christiane: srs bsnsdazedpuckbunny on August 17th, 2009 05:59 am (UTC)
:( A garage sale that includes humans. Thanks for posting, but omg this is so sad.
Christianedazedpuckbunny on August 17th, 2009 06:05 am (UTC)
Also! Where did you find this ad?
evillartevillart on August 17th, 2009 08:30 pm (UTC)
The only plus I see, considering the date on the ad, 1858, is that the people sold in this sale were freed a few years later.
evillartevillart on August 17th, 2009 08:31 pm (UTC)
I mean 1859. War was over in 1865.
Miss Tia's Journal: gazebomisstiajournal on August 17th, 2009 09:43 pm (UTC)
well i just took a reconstruction history class last semester and depending where the slaves where they were not freed....the owners kept them enslaved in some parts and when federal agents came to enforce freedom that is when the south came up with 'black codes' which was just about as bad as slavery....

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