24 April 2012 @ 11:27 am
Pleasantly Plump in 1891  



Sigh, I would have been so fashionable then.

The scary thing is that by today's insane standards, even the slimmer model on the left would be judged to be a "thick" body type.
 
 
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Jane: Thistlejanenx01 on May 3rd, 2012 03:48 am (UTC)
Plump and Rosy with HONEST Fleshiness of Form.

It's like they know me.
Sarahtresjolie9 on May 3rd, 2012 03:53 am (UTC)
Love seeing articles from an era before modern farming, when being plump was seen as a sign of prosperity.
cuddyclothes: Curves Cause Troublecuddyclothes on May 3rd, 2012 04:00 am (UTC)
Thank you!
Carolinesaikaro_x on May 3rd, 2012 04:02 am (UTC)
Ha! This is great.
Furnace Chantfurnacechant on May 3rd, 2012 04:03 am (UTC)
While it's true that a plumper figure than today was desired, most erotic art of the period shows girls more like the thinner one, and $1 a bottle would have been VERY expensive stuff at that time...do you have a source for this? I have a feeling it might be a parody.
Amandajadorepop on May 3rd, 2012 04:43 am (UTC)
I think they're legit, from the 1890s: http://www.emildevries.com/Fattenu.htm
Beer and Skittlesliadlaith on May 3rd, 2012 08:40 am (UTC)
I think you're right. The copy looks like it's set in Futura, which was invented about 40 years later.

Also, there was a product called Fat-ten-u, but it was made by a company called Lorings, not Ritter and Co. Their ads look very different.
Kiwihunterkiwihunter8 on May 3rd, 2012 12:38 pm (UTC)
Ooo good catch on the font issue. I'm going to print it out and pretend it's real, though :D
pikkewyntjiepikkewyntjie on May 3rd, 2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I agree about the font and the justification looks a bit too clean for ad copy from that time, but they could have had an ace typesetter. The Lorings ad you mention is real. (You hope the Library of Congress would be able to spot a fake.) As for the product name, I don't know. Maybe Lorings bought out Ritter and Co. or vice versa? Or one company stole the other company's product name. That happens, too.

I want this ad to be for real, but I don't know if it is or not. I would like to know more about it.
Catty Feministjocelmeow on May 3rd, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
There's a color version of this that was once on Etsy.

While there were certainly products of this sort in this era (as we see with the Lorings ad with a product by the same name) this made me pretty suspicious because it seems almost expressly designed to push our buttons as modern viewers in a society with an obsession with thinness. It's a little too perfect.

Also, the style doesn't seem right..no corset, the patterned underwear? And the loose and flowing hair strikes me as unusual for the era...I'm not an expert, but I'd expect more of a Gibson Girl look.
Furnace Chantfurnacechant on May 3rd, 2012 06:08 pm (UTC)
I knew there was something about that font that was ringing a warning bell, too! Also, "taken up Grecian Dancing and have leading roles in local productions"? Not, IIRC, something that respectable women would admit to in that era. Actresses were considered quite scandalous in general.
bzulbzul on May 3rd, 2012 05:11 pm (UTC)
A few other scrutinizers weigh in...so to speak.

http://ask.metafilter.com/151532/Slim-Chance-that-this-poster-is-a-Big-Fat-Fake

Assessments of clues, elements and period context for something like this are always interesting.
Moon: Gene Vincent by memoonjaguar on May 3rd, 2012 07:08 pm (UTC)
I thought I read somewhere it was a parody ad, like the infamous tapeworm diet ad.
hydrozoahydrozoa on May 3rd, 2012 10:56 pm (UTC)
i found this slight variation on the poster, for what it's worth:

http://www.tuscanfoodie.com/2010/11/get-fat-and-look-beautiful.html

Edited at 2012-05-03 10:57 pm (UTC)
Kat Gets Better.privacycat on May 3rd, 2012 04:38 am (UTC)
"Makes despairing folks happy?" BUT I THOUGHT THINNER WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ME HAPPY.
blokesomethingblokesomething on May 3rd, 2012 05:29 am (UTC)
@ OP. Ironically, the general population was much thinner back then.
Singe Addamssingeaddams on May 3rd, 2012 03:56 pm (UTC)
Also much smaller. One of Jack the Ripper's victims was nicknamed 'Long Lil' because she was so tall. Her actual height was 5'3".
bradygirl_12: fenway park 1bradygirl_12 on May 3rd, 2012 05:25 pm (UTC)
One of the complaints about Fenway Park (100 this year!) is that the seats are too small for modern bodies.
blokesomethingblokesomething on May 3rd, 2012 06:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, wow that's unfortunate! Who is doing the complaining, the patrons or the park managers?
plumtreeblossom: fat catplumtreeblossom on May 3rd, 2012 06:32 pm (UTC)
I can attest to the small seats. I just barely fit, and I'm only a size 12 (which would have roughly equaled a size 16 in the 1970s)
blokesomethingblokesomething on May 3rd, 2012 06:36 pm (UTC)
The seat may have been adequate at some point, I'm assuming. Unless had no intention of making them comfortable from the beginning!
bradygirl_12: fenway park 1bradygirl_12 on May 3rd, 2012 10:48 pm (UTC)
I remember those small seats well! :)
bradygirl_12: fenway park 1bradygirl_12 on May 3rd, 2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
The patrons. Fenway underwent renovations in the last ten years with the new ownership so they kept it pretty old-fashioned while updating the park. The seats didn't change, though, at least in size. ;)
Cindycindyanne1 on May 3rd, 2012 09:59 am (UTC)
I... I want to enlarge this and have it as wall art.
mjspicemjspice on May 3rd, 2012 11:26 am (UTC)
Ahh the god old days when being fat was considered being beautiful.
zorinlynxzorinlynx on May 3rd, 2012 02:51 pm (UTC)
It seems that people find attractive what's hard to achieve.

Food wasn't as plentiful and available in the 1890s as it is today, so most people were skinny, and only those who were well-off could eat enough to get plump. Therefore, being plump was seen as healthy and desireable; it was very difficult to be plump.

Today, fattening foods are so plentiful that it's easy to gain weight! This means being slim becomes attractive in peoples' eyes, simply because it takes work to achieve.

I think it should be neither. Everyone should be happy with their appearance and not go out of their way to fit a societal "ideal".
Me.cremepuff on May 3rd, 2012 03:13 pm (UTC)
This.
plumtreeblossom: pin upplumtreeblossom on May 3rd, 2012 06:33 pm (UTC)
Best comment ever. :-)
blokesomethingblokesomething on May 3rd, 2012 06:37 pm (UTC)
I agree with the being happy part, but I do think people should go out of their way to be healthy if they care about themselves.

Edited at 2012-05-03 06:42 pm (UTC)
cristinashortsweetcynic on May 4th, 2012 03:21 pm (UTC)
well said.

OP: faux or not, this was a great find. not sure if it made me happy or sad, but it did make me think.
everything counts in large amountsfornikate on May 3rd, 2012 02:56 pm (UTC)
man i woulda been so popular
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